1 PC with ethernet network card and XP Pro, (Of course everyone could have an additional broadband router, and that would be secure and work for simply email and web browsing, but other things could break. Simple enough solution – go buy a router. In recent years, hubs aren’t as common, and switches have come into greater use. on the desktop with the printer, make sure the printer has, in fact, been shared). You’ll have to configure the static IP in the router, and turn off its attempt to use DHCP, but as I said, most will. I still have all four IP addresses and my ISP says it is the routers fault because it should be assigning dynamic IP addresses and Linksys says I should get the static IP addresses from my ISP and enter them manually… in effect they are blaming each other…but maybe it is I that should be blamed??? The second question has to do with the distance a signal can be carried on the CAT5 cable. NTL broadband-usb-[PC1]–rj45–[PC2]–rj45-[PC3} The solution there is a router – it only uses one, as far as your ISP is concerned, and you can have many computers behind the router. My connection with the wireless lap top is fine and no longer getting disconnected (I think, due to wireless phones on the same freq.). Higher end wired routers can do this, I believe, but they’re *very* expensive. When the router passes that on to the internet, it replaces the local IP address with the internet IP address assigned by the ISP — 1.2.3.4, in the example. I’d like to secure my network, especially the wireless components. The address you configure should start with 192.168. Essentially I am trying to use it as a spliter so I can put two computers at that end of a single cat 5 run. IP like 192.168.1.11 and 192.168.2.33 with a switch? No I am in a bit of situation, I have a static IP say 174.xx.x.4 and default gateway as 174.xx.x.1 Switches use CAM (Content Accessible Memory) that can be accessed by ASIC (Application Specific Integrated Chips). Basically, I want both computers to connect independantly to the internet (eg I don’t want to have to have one pc always on for the other to connect) 1 company have said that they supply a modem that is usb, but has a rj45. Does it worth buyng it or should i look for a router in order to network my 2 desktops and 2 laptops ? The good news is that G routers and network cards also support the B protocol. @SJ Leo – this blog has gone on for years – impressive. Yes and yes! Working fine before … you connected it to a network? Will a cable/dsl router work for me, or should I be looking for the other type of router? don’t know what is real problem, i think switch is more convenient then hub. Can I daisy chain a router? hub to hub , switches to switches , router to router . That gets confusing. If there is are machines communicating with each other on your local network, and they’re using LOTS of bandwidth, a router or a switch can isolate their traffic so that it doesn’t impact other machines. by the way i use net support school program to monitoring the 15 computer in my work place. Waiting for the reply. They are used for creating small home networks. I know for a fact it is a hub, and that I only have one IP address. Comments violating those rules will be removed. SWITCH:- The MAC addresses won’t match and it’ll go back into “learning” mode. hi leo.. why crossover cable used to connect difference devices like switch and hub as well as workstation and router? Before what? Yesse, u asked “Why doesn’t everybody use routers instead of hubs?” I believe if I’m going from a hub to a switch it should be a crossover. But does it mattter if I use a switch or hub in this scenario? – Most devices referred to a a ROUTER that available for the home/small office user – I prefer to call these POP’s – Piece Of Plastic – inside the cover of these devices are typically (a) a Router (surprise), (b) an n port Switch, and (if the POP does wireless) (c) a WAP (Wireless Access Point) What type of Router would u recommend for having my PS2 and Computer hooked up at all times? I’d check the capabilities of both. One runs on XP other on 8.1 Pro. You can use ICS, but really a router is MUCH simpler and not very expensive. Will the heaviest traffic all be local, or internet based? It’s what I’d do :-). Our new offices are already networked to a closet where all 24 network lines terminate. 5) Single broad cast domain. Certainly a misconfiguration or even a misconnection to a switch or a router can’t make it happen. Should I leave this the same, or change the ip of the switch? While there might be slight functionality differences (even the pros get the hub/switch/router thing confused — or sometimes functionality kinda blurs the lines), the larger devices should be essentially just higher capacity versions of the same thing you might buy for home or small office. 1 being used as internet server (and must be on for the net to be reached).This server has to network cards installed – 1 connected to the ADSL modem, the other to the general hub. One of my dads friends tried to tell me that with the switch I should be able to get my full bandwidth on all computers. Your local computers, on the other hand, will ask the router for an IP address, and these addresses are local to your network. This means that the router also acts as an effective firewall. >.<. If it’s truly a hub, it could be clogging your internet connection with local traffic uneccessarily. I was thinking about connecting direct to the XBox. If you have multiple pcs in your house the best way to connect all this with out any effort is to purchase a wireless router. There’s still a ton of networking equipment in the U.S. that needs technicians. Maybe even less. The speed will depend on what you are doing, but it will not be “split in half”, it’ll be based on what traffic is happening on your network. Thanks any help would be greatly appreciated! Since information on hardware routers is sketchy and dense [it seems an especially nerdy subject], i’d really love it if you answered my above questions. A crossover cable takes the output of one end of the cable and connects it to the input of the other. Which leads to my second question: I assume that a hub will be sufficient for my needs, not a router? hey leo I want to try do this without having to buy a hub and pay for another domain name? Yeoman’s work, Leo. They won’t talk to each other. When looking at the router DCHP table, I can only see the wireless connections, but not any of the PC’s connected to the hub nor the single PC that is connected directly to the router. 2) The same reason as 1, the address returned by “what is my ip address” is the ip address of the router. Really large routers include the equivalent of a full-blown programming language to describe how they should operate, as well as the ability to communicate with other routers to describe or determine the best way to get network traffic from point A to point B. Note pc 2 had two network cards installed. What can I add to this router to expand my ports. When I am trying to join the XP Virtual machine and Win 8 Physical Machine to the Windows Server 2003 Virtual which is installed in the Virtual box after installing Active Directory Services it says “verify that the domain name is properly registered with WINS. The windows computer could not connect to the internet. We would like to provide gamers to play games in Battle.net (Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo, World of Warcraft). 5. Bender: chances are your ISP is only giving you one IP address, so only one machine will work at a time. Nothing I tried seemed to do the trick. I guess I’ll keep working the issue, at least now I do know that’s it’s doable. For example: However it’s more likely they’ll only give you one IP at a time, so you’ll need something like a NAT router in that case. It’s possible to connect them with a switch or a hub, but I really recommend a router for connecting to the internet. I am looking for a device to connect my enire home network, two computers and an xbox(for xbox live). Then I could use either computer on line at will if take the troouble to plug and unplug. Bluetooth, by definition, has a very limited range. Laura: yep, that’s the approach I’d take if I were doing what you describe. they will outside my house and then back inside on each floor. should i buy a switch? Re: What is the Difference between Hub and Switch? For instance, if you usually use IE, then use Chrome or Firefox. i was taking a cisco(router, switch hub etc) class, but i dropped it because it seems all networking jobs are offshore, do you think it is still possible to make a career as a network Tech in the states? Can vary, though, and it’s possible you need a reversing cable. I have 5 IPs assigned to me, and I use only one – I have a router installed and all works well, AND I get a firewall. Depends on the network traffic. Switches/hubs simply extend the network that they are already a part of. Can i use it to distribute my internet over my computers instead? This place seems to be exciting? Hubs are “dumb” devices that pass on anything received on one connection to all other connections. Here’s what I have: I’ll bet that the hub is 10mb fixed speed, and that both the card and the router are auto-sensing 10/100. I agree that Lionel needs to make these stronger. Switch reads the frame Hey Leo, great job on clearing this up for me. ==> Computer. months. Is it possible to use it to connect two of my computers to the internet at the same time using that? i am having problem with my network. Is this really going to happen? But some level of additional hardware or more advanced hardware would be required. I simply want to connect both of them for sharing files and printer, and playing multi player games. I shall be searching for more answers on your site. – in order to connect all of these devices to the Internet, in addition to each other, you need an Internet IP Address for each; if your ISP is only providing you ONE IP Address (this is typical), then that is where the POP’s Router comes into play; each device has its own IP Address but these are NOT Internet IP Addresses (typically 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x); they convert each of your devices non Internet IP Addresses to the single Internet IP Address provided by your ISP and then back when data comes back in from the Internet, returning the reply to the originating computer, using a process called NAT (Network Address Translation) The teacher PCs we use like a server, and usually all of us work on the server’s documents. verizon is my internet provider. or can a switch do that too? Fall Guys is getting a handful of skins as part of a crossover with Doom next week. Any suggestions? what i should to do to see all 15th client at the same time. hello friend, Therefore, I’m simply not going to be able for both to be online at the same time. Another approach – particularly if the computer is damaged or not worth repairing – is to take the hard disk out and put it into an external enclosure. my bf and I are a sharing an internet connection at the moment. Now I will ask you this question because maybe I have been lead to beleive something that is not true. Is the way to share same speed all the systems? I have a Linksys broadband router connected to my computer, wireless lap top and playstation2. If so, I’d suspect the network card, or drivers. That’s this article, if you’re interested: http://ask-leo.com/what_is_double_natting.html). In Hub the rate of data transmission is slow You also want to have the XP firewall turned *off* (your router is providing that functionality). Please read the article you just commented on. 5) Separate collision domain. This is what most IT departments would end up with … a single peice of equipment (perhaps a redundant pair) that would handle both your NAT, as well as appropriate routing, and have the 40+ connections you need. Turn off the feature that provides DHCP. I have a few issues, though. and i dont know how to do that. In this difference tutorial, you will learn. We’ve a Belkin play 600n and the DHCP part I looked at the last time I was there. Need a little help on what to get. My friend insists I don’t need a router and that the switch should be assigning individual IPs. I am using a router Linksys. But in the common case either will do quite nicely. The reason that I asked the diff router/gateway is that I noticed somwhere on the internet a very good deal about home wireless networking : With this proxy method. I am on the fifth floor and there is a linksys g router on the first floor. No, a hub is not a switch. 9 . In a word: maybe. Our WAN is consistent but our LAN drops frequently. My questions as this time this Language laboratory’s does not send or receive a message. thanks Josh, Broadband router is probably the easiest in the long run, yes. I have read your previous posts and disabled the DHCP on the secondary router, but that has been to no avail. That brings up a couple of other questions. Second question: In trying to set up Qos in my router, when I apply it, it shuts down all my devices. Hub works as a common connection point for devices in a network. Thanks in advance for you time. The hub itself is blissfully ignorant of the data being transmitted. It’s easy to tell … if the machines all have private IP addresses (probably 192.something), then it’s probably the switch. If not … I can’t think of a solution off-hand that doesn’t involve just getting another IP address. What I did was buy a Router which I am waiting for to come in the mail. If you are already connecting through a router, then you need a switch with WAN capability and a network card in each computer. In most cases, you can return the device to the manufacturer who will, or should, replace it for free. Also, whenever I start shopping for a router, they all seem to specify a broadband connection and none mention compatability with dail-up. Most hubs come with an uplink port, but you can also connect two hubs using a special “reversing” network cable between them. Can this be done with another lan card? This article explains how to do that: 4) Single collision domain. Both of our machines and the modem are connected to a switch and he is running a proxy server on his machine. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, HI sir fantastic articles i want 2 know if a router IP address changed 4 example 192…x,…2 this is router IP address and we want to talk with other computers ad there ip address dont have similarity would router or computer accept there request in other side there ip address are different. A router will still give you the additional protection of a firewall. And if not, there are alternatives to work around that too. Personally, I vote for #2 as being easier to manage in the long run, and probably cheaper anyway. My apologies if i’m cross-posting or off-topic here… I am attempting to expand my network in my office. There is a router on the other end of the house that connects to 3 other computers. This sounds like someone’s homework or test question. Port forwarding forwards port 80 (used for webpage connections) down my network. 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