He’s still got the sign but most all the stuff I got I threw out. The ships have shed more than 20 tons of toxic paint debris that have settled into bay sediments, where they will cause problems long after the ships are gone. I don’t know why you are so mad over a health and safety risk that someone ELSE took, i don’t think that the asbestos is going to carry over into your lungs, but I know people like to play the mother figure when posting on anonymous internet blogs. Your rationalization of the worth of this undertaking based on your previous experience and your ability to evade the law is disheartening to me as an American who wishes Americans would regain their sense of responsibility. What you did is a good way to get either hurt or killed! I know it’s fashionable on the left (including the republican left) to find fault in Bush for being the first president compelled to struggle with how best to defend liberty in an era of nuclear, bio and cyber-powered terrorism, but I for one give him credit for be a bold leader in an exceptionally difficult world of accelerating change and rapidly emerging technologies producing prompt and existential threats. (look at the link for all of the pictures). It seemed like it was always overcast and the river was lined with Oak trees with massive amounts of Spanish Moss. Most of the off-the-wall critisisms were made w/o reading this paragraph. If they wanted to go out and put themselves in such perils, to preserve the memory of a dying fleet of ships, let them be. Being adventurous and taking risks has great rewards. I, personally, have wanted to get into UrbEx for awhile now, though am a bit too young [ 14. Real history. Groups have asked and been given permission for photography in the past, you probably had a pretty good chance of safe and legal access to the ships. Right, any opinions that don’t paint King Bush in a positive light is considered political bashing and any opinions expressed about our current president is considered free speech and is protected by the Constitution, as long as the information is “fair and balanced”. Then as a Doctor, I am sure that you are aware of the dangers of bird droppings, wich are abundant on old ships like this, and the threat from breathing in asbestos is a very real threat. I like your photos but you lost credibility with your statement. FACT: Bush deliberately suppressed EPA reports recommendations and concerns. “Oh hell. I served aboard The USS Germantown, USS Fort Fisher, USS Tarawa, USS Okinawa, and traveled with the USS Durhan, USS Debuque and Clevland. You’re an idiot. Reality bites….. You know leftists – they have to blame EVERYTHING on repubs, regardless of the facts: Fact: Clinton benefited from a period of peace and sat on huge budget surpluses for much of his admin (provided by a replublican congress) and did NOTHING about this rotting mess. I skipped the politics and bullshit. The man left the White House over 2 years ago!! Hello. Thanks so much for letting me see something I always wondered about…what does it look like in there?? As far as you “getting caught” by security, my guess is as long as you didn’t wave your arms in an SOS fashion or have a raft full of ship souvenirs, then they really had no reason to make contact with you. Great job! (They Shoot first and get your names later). Period. What about Kenedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton. These photos are great and you’re preserving a nugget of our history. So you slip your tourguides or you come back uninvited, much less an offense after you’ve been invited and they know you(r threat level or lack thereof). However, I am deeply grateful that these two men have brought my eyes in to the vessels that I’ve longed to see. I am also a historian, archivist and WWII historian. I think the author was stating opinions, as was I. mikeK, i believe you are a douche bag and I bet you have no friends. The ships that these brave photographers have documented for us here are fading echoes of previous struggles gainst murderous tyrants. thanks for sharing. That’s pretty crazy that it’s been mothballed. Because you stole something from everyone who has served aboard, or has a passion for this, the world’s last battleship awaiting a home. No need to get political in a story like this. June 16, 2011 at 5:57pm: There was one ship in Row F that was completely sealed, painted completely gray, and had sheet metal covering all doors and windows, adhered with some kind of industrial waterproofing sealant. Guys, great pics! But you really should have thought about broadcasting your findings and the repercussions that affect others. Wake up people. My hat is off to you Bill. We do not yet know how damage tanking affects experience and credit earnings. It doesn’t make sense — oh wait — I guess it does to this administration. “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. good thing they have a “code” and all . So much history to lose…. Good to see her again. Right Jon, we dont believe in trespassing or being told where to be or what to do. You know people, all politics, trespass and other such items aside. And he no doubt inhaled asbestos fibers, since asbestos was also used aboard Navy ships. The round area on the forward main deck (former gun mount) had a painting of a Walrus and Glaciers moto “Follow Me”. Congrats on your endeavors; From the photos, they look like they were well worth it. In class we talk about how almost everthing we buy is biased towards our emotion first and then our brain, or, “People buy on emotion and justify with logic or reason.”. Most of what we know is based on guesses, some second hand information, voodoo, an over heard conversation between a captain and a mystic in a bar, a magical 8 ball and a translated document a highly trained team of corporate spies stole and uploaded to reddit. In the summer they do laser light show where it is rumored that you can see the spit shine on the sailors shoes…but its only laser lights. So why did that stop you? When you remove them nobody will remember cause “they” want to erase the past and None of my ships have fragmentation grenades equipped, and I do not think they would be very useful. I can well appreciate the rush that comes with being where you’re not supposed to be, but nothing is more dissapointing than finding out my favorite trail or camping spot or inlet has now been declared off limits because a few individuals have broken the rules. I would love to see you publish a coffee table book, please. And when you inhale the spores (which are airborne all the time, but especially when you and your fellow trespassers walked over the stuff and disturbed it) and they germinate in your lungs (and later your blood), they secrete a deadly neurotoxin which cause irreversable neurological damage. We should all break into your house or photo studio and spend as much time as we like. That great dresser! Guys, one of the major reasons these vessels are off limits to sightseers is that most were built during the time when asbestos was used extensively as a piping insulator on steam, hot/cold water piping, etc. I like the pictures very much! Senator John McCain and violated professional ethics to create juvenile political art. It looked like it was in some kind of dry dock, can you give us some more info on where you saw that? Mankind of all of the nations of the world be just be at a stand still. It’s the life in your years that generate something of worth, as is this project. It was in “Tomorrow Never Dies” and not “The World is Not Enough”. Greetings from Poland and keep up the good work guys! Sadam and the Taliban were preparing to do just that. I could understand if this were some big cover up and you were exposing something, but all the environmental impact seems like it’s out there in the open, people know about it. Sad, very sad. 415-765-8889. – Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002, “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” We are a nation run by gangsters, a nation of accomplices. People need to also relieze that there is lot of other battleships in all of oceans floor. 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My dad was on the USS Sperry and I know that it’s in the fleet. The result was an increased risk of the ships sinking in place. Because we are sad sad internet people with little lives, and it makes us upset when we see what others are doing in the world around us, while were rotting away in front of our computer screens. What about Clinton, Carter, Congres, or any of your other lib socialist heros. Sailing around and dying before you do any damage gets some pity exp. The future is unsure because of our own foolish decisions to attempt to guarantee every soul, productive or not, an ‘Acceptable Standard’ of living with every entitlement that productive taxpayers enjoy. You’ve done dozens if not hundreds of sites and gotten permission for essentially none of them. You’re a little late to play the punk, so at this point your best bet is go to MARAD and SINCERELY apologize (like real men) to them, and for the effect you had on other groups, and ask what you can do to put it right. And for the rest of you.. Why are you here, instead of trolling on YouTube, or rewriting Wikipedia? NEWSMAX.COM America's News Page © {{$root.nmx_currentdate | date:'yyyy'}} Newsmax Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved More info here under “Use of Photos”: http://scotthaefner.com/about/. I am a former crewmember of the USS Mispillion AO 105, the tanker that is next to the Sea Shadow. Wow! a tones way for your client to communicate. Around noon, we would wake up and eat and explore the bowels of the ships. The rules changed for the better during Bush on how and where you could dispose of these. Major, major kudos goes out to you and your friends for your outstanding effort and achievement! Decisions of what they are eventually used for is up to the crrrently expanding and taxpayer subsidized, overwhelming ‘Bureaucrasy’ growing in our govt. Saddam did have WMD’s, he used them against the Iranians & Kurds. Those were men and women serve on those mighty ships that protected them and even the enemy side as well. The shots are really great and you should be very proud, it’s a wonderful body of work. It seems these guys were prepared and were ready to face what they set out to do. These gentlemen did what they did with a full understanding of the risks and consequences. It’s too bad you brought politics into what is a very good story . Bush!!! We are far overdue for an overhaul of the system. He is a bumbling fumbling MORON that should be taken to the south forty and be completely eliminated both for the good of humanity and this Country. Unfortunately just because you’ve been stonewalled before doesn’t make it certain you would have been stonewalled again. while I lived in Germany with my husband who was serving in the Army I remember hearing Saddam stormed a Kuwaiti hospital killing all the infants that had just been born??? Lived in Davis (1962) and used to pass a bit with row on row of destroyers where ever they were! Why must you use name calling and mudslinging when adding to the discussion? I assure you that any concern that anybody might come up with, was previously discussed and addressed by us. God help us if you’re the future of our Nation. Also, the electrical transformers used throughout older ships were built during an era when PCB’s and toxic chemicals were used to fill transformer cannisters. Great Pictures regardless of who did what….it’s part of History. Thank you (and your friends) for taking the risks for this photo documentation. Would love to hear about your other adventures. There are groups working hard to preserve some of these ships as accessible museums, including the Iowa and others. Stupid stool pushers. Its hard to believe some of the idiotic comments. I’m about to try the mothball fleet at James River, VA. | This is K. Bannerman's blog, Two amazing military finds | The Lostinjersey Blog, Amazing Photos Of The “Mothball Fleet” celebrity | ogle star, Watch Ghost Ship – August 13, 1956 Online | Blogs, Inside the Ghost Ships of the Mothball Fleet, http://www.kqed.org/quest/television/ghost-fleet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Reserve_Fleet, http://www.maritimeprofessional.com/Blogs/The-Final-Word-with-Joseph-Keefe/November-2010/Marad—Mare-Island–Miracle-or-Mirage-.aspx. I was surprised to learn that there are still that many left. The adrenaline rush and anxiety I felt as we approached the ships instantly faded once we climbed aboard safely. The ships have been there since the 60′s – just because they got noticed during Bush’s presidency doesn’t mean he gets all the blame. Senator Kennedy was once reported to have said that the Democrats missed the boat then and should have agreed because once started down the road, it gets easier to make small changes that continue to evolve the system. Well we live in a FREE society. I found no boilers in a state of proper layup. Your pictures are truley amazing and you should win some type of award for your journal and photos…. I would suggest that since the security people have very high resolution imaging equipment behind the spotlights, which were used mostly to blind you, and since you probably looked like three photographers/thrillseekers, they almost certainly concluded you likely were neither stealing valuable equipment nor heading toward the ships to blow them up, and thus not worth their time. We built Saddam Hussein up just as we built up Gaddafi and hundreds of other tyrants great and small, and we can replace them with new tyrants whenever they stop playing ball. of the USN. #2: Given the exigency of the moment (i.e. Bill Thompson makes sense out of nonsense. Probably by a fragmentation grenade. Nevermind… found it! Great pictures. I also would like to thank you for your service to our country despite what others are saying about us being duped meat puppets for the man… that is one of the funniest, most narrow-minded things i’ve heard in a while, thanks for the laugh. I´m nosey how good are yours. I decided to start from the top, and your post is the last one before where I had left off. We did do the right thing and the world is a safer place because of our action and sacrifice there, just like it is for the dirty business these ships and crews had to take care of during their service. I haven’t seen a dang thing at all. Interactive eBook filled with photos and stories of our urban exploration adventures at some of America’s most legendary ruins. what everyone has taken either as a “political rant” or a statement of fact is in fact both. If you ever did a book I would buy it in a second and will put your site in my favorites. Although the ships continued to dwindle down over time, approximately 75 remained throughout the 2000s, rusting and leaching toxic heavy metals into the bay as the Bush administration did little to address the crumbling ships. I would just rather see them destroyed than see the bay destroyed. The Wisconsin (BB-64) is a museum ship in Norfolk, VA. Perhaps, though, you were not referring to her sister ships in her class, but the others in the reserve fleet. Every day, 71 Maritime Administration workers inspect the ships for leaks, oil the engines and make sure only dry air circulates inside the ships’ hulls. We turned back and called it a weekend, but now we knew it was possible. Great show tonight. I still long to do this before they are gone. I am a very low-level photographer, and I can’t appreciate the artistry behind them, but I thought they were good. You said yourself this had been going on for 40 50 years. Don’t you think that maybe it’s time to hold the man in office responsible for the mistakes he makes? Pingback: Inside the Ghost Ships of the Mothball Fleet | Maszman Speaks! I’ve driven past the mothball fleet for 30 years and have always been fascinated by them. Of course like an old friend, it kept showing up every time my first duty station (a Knox Class frigate) departed or entered San Diego Bay. Thank you guys for taking the risk and bringing back some great shots of these forgotten warriors. Another definition is: a management environment that is created for the purpose of delivering one or more business products according to a specified business case. Yes it is unfortunate that it made it harder for others to get access but they did it, now the time has passed and has already been done. I am glad you went to do it and got away with it! Why bother. The ships are interesting, though and I’m glad to see you’re all OK and that the “mission” is completed! All that is now in jeopardy for the future. Even the "Urban Dictionary" is corrupted (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frag), recognizing in its third alternative the use here (and everywhere in GamerDudeLand). These were not the first abandoned ships that we’ve explored. she is at Pier 45 in San Francisco and could use help with preservation – google SS Jeremiah O’Brien – National AALiberty Ship Memorial Long shot, but is there any chance you’d post an equipment list re: cameras, lenses, and lighting? I guess such shots would have been too dangerous!! I stumbled across the site by accident and was facinated as my grandfather worked in th Engineering Dept. I am not convinced your motivation wasn’t history, but thrill-seeking and notiriety; it’s what you do: Sneak into places that are off-limits. Whether it was right, or even smart may be open to debate but ultimately you will live (or die) with the consequences. Great photos and great job photographing these old warships. She’s not rusting-away; she even has a complete dehumidification system working full-time, and is visited and maintained regularly. Wretched, by the looks of it. You got in. I am US Navy Veteran. You left off the Glomar Explorer…it was removed some years ago and retrofitted for, I believe, NOAA. Fair winds and following seas to these amazing vessels of old…and thank you to the crew who was daring enough to engulf on this voyage to bring forth images of our history! Practically admitting defeat, we decided that there was not much we could say, and we feared our gear would give us away. QUESTION: Do you have any images from the Wabash? It must have been so friggen great to be on those ships. Yeah turd criminal obama spending blah blah.You guys crack me up! And mold spores? I was raised with a similar perspective from my grandfather and father. You could tell your story and show off some photos on camera. I see nothing wrong with it. Wait I've just been informed the stolen document was from a different game company and it only covered in office use of the vending machines. Anyway, did you see Howard Hughes treasure ship while you were out there? You’re 100% correct we maintained and continue to maintain detailed plans to fight wars in many potential theaters all over the world, including plans to return to Iraq. The ships have been there since the 60′s – just because they got noticed during Bush’s presidency doesn’t mean he gets all the blame.” – George. I hope that any negative comments you may receive, regarding your stories and pics from this, don’t make you feel hesitant about a future exploration. These ships may have delivered soldiers, supplies and weapons so that America could fight its battles. Such an inglorious end for a grey lady of the sea. Bin Laden stated after 9-11-01 that he had nothing to do with it. You have given us vision and have answered questions with your images that we have naturally-desired when viewing the fleet. Boatboy, where did you come up with them being dishonest? And I am also degreed microbiologist and I can tell you unequivocally that the toxins (or as you pointed out, mycotoxins) secreted by S. chartarum pose a significant health risk. Yeah, Dean, I have to hand it to Bush for “screwing up Texas”, and in fact I wish we could get him to come to California and “screw it up” like Texas. He may have inherited the debt….but he ran for office willingly and increased the debt…it has grown considerably since he took office. But what gets me is. I just toured the USS Iowa. Thanks guys, for taking the time to do this. My grandfather passed away a few years ago and every time I pass by the fleet, I always try to catch a glimpse of the ships and imagine him aboard the Nereus back in the late 40′s. Ridiculous. I think this whole project was done for no reason other than to make a political statement. Why didnt you just ask like every other museum or group that has to? “George 41 started dismantling the US Military”… REALLY??? Plain and simple! I just got back from China, a pretty optimistic and non-paranoid place, which has its own downsides of course, like we do, but from all these posts it seems America has gotten pretty dour and cruel. i am not going to criticize you for you adventure, you had your reasons for doing what you did, and i respect that, just like some of the polite folks that countered you decision for what you did. I came across this article tonight through Yahoo or something, and posted an admiring, even treacly reply. -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998, “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” these pictures are amazing. Is that the best you can do? these things will collect inert and toxic gasses in closed spaces that WILL NOT support life. People ARE concerned over what others do to THEIR health because ultimately it costs ALL OF US OUR MONEY to help them, instead of going to more worthwhile endeavors, when the inevitable health problem occurs…and it always does! I thought the HMB-1 was moved to San Diego YEARS ago. Once aboard, everything seemed to slow down. Bush ; Political Party: REPUBLICAN I was a creative writing student at San Francisco State at the time, and the experience gave me the idea for a short story, “Catwalk,” about a former sailor who visits his old submarine in mothballs, only to be reminded, tragically, of an incident out at sea that came back to haunt him. This has been an issue for a long time. These guys are just capitalyzing on a made up controversy. Bottom line, great job. And when it rusts it loses structural integrity. Better to have just posted the photos by themselves….. Well said, Kenneth! They did this for the world and for Obama. I recognized the USCGC Glacier from the first photo of your group posted on the web today. Want some real adventure, hot shots? Sure Bush got sued. One wonders why the DD Yakuza isn't climbing the walls about the unfairness of it all. The Jeremiah O’Brien made a 5-month voyage to Normandy in June of 1994 – for D-Day + 50. by searching for nasal polyps surgery or not, Pingback: Amazing Photos Of The “Mothball Fleet” celebrity | ogle star. Well done guys, great article and photos! I also agree that ships that are stored for potential recommisioning should be well sealed, identified and protected for potential future use and all should respect those ships. Of forgotten relics, particularly those in my time, i would like say... Politicians who run war like a business roaming and shooting while i work online just added captions on all oceans. Result was an increased risk of the USS Glacier looks like a supremacist. 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